May 05, 2005

Israel - The World's Conscience?

Over at Meryl's, somebody named David Allbaugh is grousing about Israel buddying up to Turkey:

Mark, I do not mean to single Israel out for criticism in regards to being quiet about the Armenian Genocide. I do feel, though, that given the Holocaust, Jews in Israel and the Diaspora do have a responsibilty to recognize such horrors as the Armenian Genocide.

He is no doubt referring to the fact that the Armenian Foreign Minister Vartan Osk recently called on Israel to officially recognize that Turkey was responsible for the massacre of some 1.5 million Armenians in 1915:

"There is some discrepancy between their words and their deeds on genocide. Israel has to show a moral authority since we have gone through similar history and experience," he said in an interview.

Once again some schmuck with an axe to grind (and a parrot named David) is singling Israel out for NOT doing what everyone else is NOT doing. Unfortunately, I don't have the patience for this that the inestimable Meryl seems to. I'd like to know why the likes of David Allbaugh can't seem to leave us the fuck alone, especially on Yom Hashoah?

Update: I left the following comment at Meryl's because I think it is important to realize exactly why I feel this way about this issue:


Dan - No one, certainly not Meryl or I, is saying that we shouldn't be outraged at what is happening in Darfur.

The Rabbi Hillel said, "If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?"
These are words that every Jew should live by, and I can't say as I know any who don't.

David has done here what the rest of the world has done over the centuries - He holds Israel and the Jews to a higher standard than the rest of the world because of some perceived notion that Israel and the Jews are the world's conscience.
Israel does more in humanitarian aid to Muslim countriues, e.g., than Muslims would ever conceive of reciprocating. The same goes for the rest of the world. We do this out of the commandment of tzedakkah, and not because the likes of Allbaugh think we must because of our "Holocaust Experience".
My issue in particular with Allbaugh is that he had the bad taste and clueless lack of tact and class to state that "Jews in Israel and the Diaspora do have a responsibilty to recognize such horrors as the Armenian Genocide". ........................... All of this on Yom Hashoah, the one day that is set aside that we may remember OUR six million.
I don't know about you, Dan, but as a Jew I am busy being concerned about the rest of the world 364 days a year. Is it too much to ask of people like Allbaugh that we be left in peace to recognize our tragedy one fucking day out of the year? And who the fuck, exactly, is David Allbaugh to say what we must and musn't do?

Frankly, I am a little tired of the rest of the world dictating what we as Jews must think and feel.

Mark's brain blurted out at 10:16 PM
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Mark, I do not have an ax to grind. I did not know about the Armenian Foreign Minister's statement untill you mention it. All the information I have used in my posts came from Jewish sources such as the Head Heeb and the Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles. Without them I would not have even remembered this being the 90th aniversary of the Armenian Genocide, let alone post about it! I do not like being called a parrot or any other personal insults. I have not insulted you or Meryl and I would appreciate you behaving the same!

Posted by: David All at May 6, 2005 10:45 PM

Jews discussing amongst themselves what the Israeli response should be to the Armenian FM's ridiculous (IMHO) statement is one hell of a lot different than goyim telling Jews how they should behave because of their "Holocaust experience". Last, if you're going to join a discussion on any issue, I suggest you do a little background search on the facts before shooting your mouth off.

Posted by: Mark at May 6, 2005 11:32 PM

"The Rabbi Hillel said, "If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?"
These are words that every Jew should live by..."

These words by Rabbi Hillel should be heard by all... even tho I am not Jewish, I read these words and have taken them to heart. They reflect the attitude of many great humanitarians and theologies...

We are all here for each other. It's up to each of us to step up to our respective plates and follow our calling to help others in need, as we would hope others would help us in ours.

Thanks for passing his words on to one more person who will carry them around... and pass them around... to those who need to hear.

As far as having a day of mourning and rememberance for the victims of the WWII Holocaust... of course you should have a day.

Perhaps, once there are official days of rememberance for the victims of all of the holocausts of past and modern history... and we see that there aren't too many days left on the calendar for other things... the people of the world will say "No more!"

That's all for now... thanks!

Posted by: Karen at May 10, 2005 01:23 PM

Sincerest apologies to everyone for my misapplication of the word "holocaust." After receiving a little history lesson (thanks, Mark!) I realize that I should have used the term "genocides" when referring to those instances other than the tragedy of WWII.

Thanks for being here and allowing me to participate. Thanks for your patience with the neophite...!

Peace.

Posted by: Karen at May 11, 2005 12:22 PM

Karen - No harm, no foul! Thanks.

Posted by: Mark at May 11, 2005 09:04 PM
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